You all are idiots. Any device these days can be used to access pornography. Why not attack every console for that reason? Sure, the Wii seems to be a family oriented system, but it's people like you who screw the gamer population. This is why nintendo has the friend codes. Please, stop, for the love of God.
Posted by Hydden Agenda
2/27/2007 @ 10:35 AM
Thankfully you let people know that there are parental controls. Otherwise, it seems like you're using the popularity of the Wii to push your agenda .. but that's just the way of the Internet!
Posted by David
2/27/2007 @ 10:58 AM
Hydden Agenda...The point here is that parents are not as smart as you about what a gaming device does. You mention the friends codes. Do parents know about this? Maybe but maybe not. Parental controls? Maybe or maybe not. Ability to access the internet? Maybe or maybe not.
The issue here is that new technology, whether its a gaming device like the Wii or something else, is coming to market and Mom's and Dad's dont know what the darn thing can do. Thats the issue at hand. I dont think they are attacking the device but telling parents to get more informed on technology. My couple of cents.
Posted by PornTalker
2/27/2007 @ 11:04 AM
Granted, I've only done a little research into the website, but it seems you guys are trying to make sure parents are talking to their kids about Porn.
And that's a good thing.
As long as you guys are ONLY pointing out that the Wii has access to the web [not ohmygod-satan-porno-device'>, there's no issue.
It's a good thing to bring instruction manuals to the attention of parents. Of course, I seriously hope that parents are already aware that EVERYTHING has an instruction manual and they should probably flip through said manual for every electronic device they buy now-a-days. Especially if they're not sure about everything they can do.
So yeah, keep up the great work. The Wii is an amazing Video Game system, I've gotten my entire family [father, aunts, uncles, cousins, even my grandmother'> playing it at one point or another. It just comes with a web browser and to the uninformed, it can also lead to adult content. But so can your cable box. Or the magazine shop. Or the movie store.
Posted by Lochoko
2/27/2007 @ 11:38 AM
Maybe it would be an idea for parents to figure out how the things their children use work by reading the instruction manual.
The Wii can only access pornography, just as it can access any internet content, if it is (a) configured to access an internet enabled network, and (b) if there is a network connection (physical or wireless) in the area.
If the instruction manual would have been read, then parents would be fully aware of the Wii's access to the internet, and also that parent controls exist on this system. Where is the complain?
Parents: read the manual.
Even if you don't understand everything in the book, at least skim it through. Pay attention to what your child is doing in their lives. Is this really a big problem for many parents?
Posted by Dallas
2/27/2007 @ 1:38 PM
I'm all for talking to your kids about porn, but theporntalk.com goes a little overboard. Using filtering software on your 17-year-old is a little outrageous. He or she will be in college the next year - do you really want them so sheltered? They'll go crazy! Not to mention that chances are that your 17-year-old will know a lot more about computers than you and will have no problem getting any content that they want...
Posted by Ray
2/27/2007 @ 1:52 PM
I came to this site with a negative attitude. I was led here by your current propaganda campaign regarding the optional internet access features of Nintendo Wii. I felt you were glooming on to the current popularity of the Wii just to further your own agenda.
My attitude changed a bit when I got here and looked around. I found that the entire site really does seem dedicated to the noble cause of helping parents to deal with their kids' potential exposure to pornography. This is a good cause and I respect it.
Yet the fact remains that you, absolutely, without a doubt, ARE glooming on to the popularity of the Wii just to further your own cause. Regardless of how I feel about a cause, half-truths and scare tactics are not the right way to move it forward.
"Wii Have a Porn Problem" is the title you chose for the piece I read. It's impossible not to take that as meaning the Nintendo Wii, in particular, has some problem with pornography. This is simply not true. You cite unsupported research about website redesigns, and anecdotal evidence from paranoid parents, instead of following through on the advice you give to visitors repeatedly throughout this site: get the facts and talk straight. The hypocrisy is discouraging.
Instead of dreaming up controversial headlines and manufacturing all that specious support for your scare tactic press release, all you needed to say was that the Wii can connect to the internet and should be considered accordingly by parents and children who decide to use the console's optional web browsing features.
Sure, it wouldn't have gotten you all this attention from angry Wii enthusiasts, but it would have been a heck of a lot more honest.
Posted by Turned Off by Propoganda
2/27/2007 @ 1:53 PM
The Nintendo Wii has parental controls to restrict access to the internet.
Posted by John
2/27/2007 @ 2:33 PM
This really isnt an attack on the Wii but an attack on ignorance. They sound like fans of the Wii according to the release and are just highlighting something for parents to know about.
And as far as propaganda goes which sounds more like propaganda to you.
The Porn Talk's Headline: "Wii Have A Porn Problem"
Kotaku.com's Headline About ThePornTalk's press release: "Christian Group Preps To Attack Wii"
Both are clever headlines but one seems to be a bit sensationalistic dont you think? Im curious, does The Porn Talk have an army/guns and are they promoting their religion on this site. Its an educational site to help parents. Thats good.
Posted by Wii Lover
2/27/2007 @ 2:34 PM
There are so many ignorant people in this world. This site, the staff or whatever, is full of them. I mean why target a kids' gaming console. Do you really think that kids will be like:
"Yes! I got the Wii! Now I will be able to look at porn without my parents knowing!"
No, kids will not have that reaction. In fact, I think that if parents actually tell their children about pornography, they will be interested in it. I mean they are only kids, it's basically reverse psychology. Telling a kid not to do something would probably result in making him do it.
These kids that aren't already exposed to pornography, will play the Wii thinking of having FUN. Not anything sick... I mean for Pete's sake they are kids!
And if kids who have a Wii happen to look at pornography just because their parents told them not to because they saw this article online or whatever, I blame you. You have to admit, most kids nowadays are curious; they would wanna know what it is and probably by first-hand.
So please, do not continue saying that the Wii is a "portal to porn" because it is really not. You are just deriving kids from an awesome video game console.
Posted by Andrew
2/27/2007 @ 2:39 PM
this just seems like a little reminder to moron parents that their kids are more smart than they are. The fact remains that the wii can access the internet and can therfor access porn, but so can the computer.
not a big deal to me, but just as long as its done with enough tact to no attack Nintendo i'm all about it.
i will say its a wonder any of these people doing this site ever leanred to keep their wives happy though :P. Porn can be a great educational tool haha!
Posted by holy porn cows
2/27/2007 @ 3:35 PM
pardon my misspellins!
Posted by holy porn cows A SECOND COMING!
2/27/2007 @ 3:37 PM
You can get porn off of anything.
MY GOD WINDOWS ANYONE COULD WALK OUTSIDE NAKED AND OUR CHILDREN WILL BE SCARED FOR LIFE.
BAN WINDOWS THE GATEWAY FOR PORNO,
Posted by LAWLZ I WATCH TEH PORN ON MEH WII
2/27/2007 @ 3:40 PM
that last dude is a retard by the way. please don't mind him.
Posted by holy porn cows A THIRD COMING!
2/27/2007 @ 3:46 PM
Did anyone stop to think that maybe, just maybe, you'd notice when someone's watching porn on your own TV?
Posted by Anonymous
2/27/2007 @ 4:03 PM
If their parents are home they would certainly notice porn on the tv. I know i spent my whole life hiding porn from my parents.
Posted by Zippy
2/27/2007 @ 4:27 PM
"Kids know this but parents don't."
I seriously think that kids are most likely too busy playing games on the Wii to care. And if they hadn't thought of it, they have now. By putting this out into the public (and getting Slashdotted, if you haven't noticed), you have likely given many subsceptible kids the idea that "hey, I can look at porn on my Wii!" Yes, now the kids do know this, that you've told them. And yes, the parents don't. However, far fewer kids would have known this if you hadn't come out and attacked a perfectly good system, which, as other commenters have pointed out, has parental controls.
Moral of the story: it's fine to alert parents to things like this. But do your research before attacking reliable products that have parental controls.
Besides, I think you'll find the Wii good clean fun, and a great alternative to spending the evening with a pile of Playboys. Go pick up a Wiimote, already!
Posted by Megan
2/27/2007 @ 4:43 PM
I am an owner of the Wii console and recently read your article about the ability to access pornography via the web browser that is available for the Wii console.
I have a few problems with the way you have decided to present your article. The idea of the article seems to be the desire to make parents aware of the dangers of internet access via devices that have traditionally not been 'connected'. This is an understandable desire, as parents may not be aware that the Wii console, the PSP handheld gaming device, or even their cellular phone has internet access.
However, the way you present your article makes it seem that you are attacking the Wii console and Nintendo, in particular. Provided, Nintendo has been known for family-friendly products throughout its 20+ years of manufacturing gaming products, but this does not mean that they do not want to protect their users from content they should not access. This is why there are parental controls on the device, just like parental controls available on the personal computer or a television.
An additional note about internet access via the Wii console that was omitted in your article is that the user must download the web browser in order to use it. It is not integrated with the device, unlike most personal computers, where the web browser is integrated with the operating system.
I would urge you to rethink your article and its presentation. Informing parents of the dangers of ALL Wi-Fi capable devices would be suggested, instead of focusing solely on one device that allows parents to control the content available to their children.
Posted by Christopher
2/27/2007 @ 5:13 PM
Don't forget your kids cell phone if it has internet capabilities....and a camera built in, watch out they'll become a porn producer in no time!!!
Better make sure that none of their friends Dad's have a old porno stash in the garage cause that's where we got ours WAY before the Internet.
Oh dear think of the children, don't let them watch Super bowl half time shows either or they'll be scared for life.
Fear isn't a proper motivator, Fear is used to subjugate not to enlighten. Don't go scaring ignorant people about the Wii's porno capability. If you are a parent and can't understand technology enough to see it's potential for misuse your kids have far more to worry about than a few naughty pics online.
Posted by Oops
2/27/2007 @ 5:24 PM
Killing (you go to jail, negative, extremely wrong, evil) = watchable on every channel of TV
Sex (God-given, positive, healthy, highly recommended for everybody) = BANNED off everything
Posted by Confused
2/27/2007 @ 5:30 PM
Wow. Thanks for everyone's lively comments. We appreciate it and think the discussion is great.
It might be important to point out that we are Wii fans. We have the console and love it. The release certainly got the conversation going but our aim was to be more educational than confrontational. Obviously, the latter seemed to come across :) Also we are technology fans. Not haters. That's why we use the web.
We also want to point out that this site is to help parents be informed about the issue of porn and the internet. Our goal is to help parents talk to their kids about these issues. Sadly to say we come across a lot of parents who simply dont understand technology and are not engaging with their kids period. This site is to help them. Turn the light on for them.
Finally, we would like to direct you to the page on the site that talks about parental controls that seems to have gone unnoticed on our site. We should of been more clear on the homepage Wii banner. Again, our point is to help parents, not attack Nintendo. For goodness sake, we love the thing.
Heres the link:
So thanks for the great discussion, feedback, and comments.
PS: In regards to this being some Christian Right Wing Republican site, I'm afraid that is way off. Unfortunately, Kotaku.com has really misrepresented that point. But all is forgiven and no worries. I can just assure you were not Republican and were not Christian right wing. Those who know us have actually got a good chuckle today out of that one :)
Posted by The Porn Talk Admin
2/27/2007 @ 6:29 PM
This is rediculous, if you don't want your children to look at porn than don't get the WiFi Connection. And if for some reason you have to get the WiFi Connection that you don't need than don't download the internet broweser. It's that simple.
You know the Wii isn't the only thing that you can look at porn on, the PS3 with its adult bluray discs, PSP with adult UMDs, 360 and its adult HDDVDs, the PC industry and the internet, cell phones, the PS3's web browser, convienence stores, movie rental places, the top shelf of dad's closet, and the clergy who do naughty things with little kids as well.
Nintendo cant be blamed for adult content. The good folks that make adult content can be blamed.
Posted by Andrew
2/27/2007 @ 6:47 PM
You've got to be kidding me... This is definately the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I can get porn on my cell phone, do you want to inform parents of that? Listen, if parents care about their kids they would stop complaining about content and what devices can do, and take control of their children. Also, communication is key, explain to your kids why you think this is wrong and what is right, don't start blaming devices in your household because they are looking at porn.
Posted by FCC is unconstitutional
2/27/2007 @ 6:48 PM
The parents bought the Wii, the wireless router, the internet access... I'm at a loss how it's Nintendo's fault for the shortcomings of the parents.
Restrict the wireless access and don't let the Wii have access, that's what MAC tables are for.
Posted by Yo R. Momma
2/27/2007 @ 7:20 PM
They arent saying its Nintendos fault and they arent attacking the Wii. They are bringing out the facts about its internet connectivity to parents who dont know these things. BTW, i have found the neighbors unsecured wireless that beams into my house makes a great Wi-Fi connection too.
Parents use the parental controls whether you have Wi-Fi in your house or not.
Posted by Clarity4u
2/27/2007 @ 8:50 PM
I think it was said earlier here in the comments section... "You guys are idiots."
I'm going to re-iterate what everyone else has said already: You can access porn from basically anywhere. I can get it on my cellphone, PDA; whatever I want really.
Anyone that DOESN'T realize that internet access instantly equals porn access shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
Posted by Stuntman
2/27/2007 @ 9:27 PM
Posted by Nothing To Say
2/27/2007 @ 9:34 PM
I cant believe you hypocrites can attack such a positive machine. This machine helps kids exercise even though its through "video games". Where in the "BIBLE" does it say that porn is a "sin" anyways. Damnit you people need to realize that our generation (Y) doesn't care about religion and its fading once all the elderly people and baby boomers die off.
Posted by Michael McMahon
2/27/2007 @ 9:37 PM
Do you people who are making these comments even read or do you just respond with these attacks on religion and porn. Have you looked around the site at all? Or are you just foaming at the mouth because you see what you want to see in this? I think if you would look around the site you would probably take back most of what you commented on. Most of what everyone said here is simply uninformed. The website people know that cell phones get porn. They know PSP's get porn. Whats your point? Every technical insight that everyone has offered is basically on their site already. But most of you didnt even check out the site. Or read anything other than this blog. You probably came storming over here from some other site that told you these guys were religious fanatics with secret plans to destroy Nintendo. Whose the real idiots now?
And please stop with attacking them cause they are religious. And they call religious people judgmental. Geez. Would you be happier if they were Jewish or Muslims? If an atheist was helping parents be better parents would that satisfy you. Done ranting.
Posted by Jenna
2/27/2007 @ 10:26 PM
Who'd want to watch porn on their low resolution TV anyway, especially when it can be viewed off your computer in uber high def. And TV's are always in the main room of the house. Seriously, any kid will go to their computer, get limewire, type sex, and kaboom, HD movies.
And seriously, your a pretty lame parent if you don't let your kid know what lifes all about. Your actually ruining your child by treating them like a trained dog, because later in life, they will be so tame that they wont even try to get a partner (and when they reach their early 40's, they'll be blaming you).
You may as well teach them the truth instead of lie to them.
This is so clueless, I have to wonder if its a joke..
Posted by Andrew
2/28/2007 @ 12:12 AM
I have reviewed the article given by "The Porn Talk Admin" (http://www.theporntalk.com/critical/wii.asp) and am now pleased to cheer your efforts on. Keep up the good work.
Posted by Christopher
2/28/2007 @ 1:58 AM
I want to give a technical advise. Because you are talking about network devices.
First: It's the user who activates the device and it's software. Also it's the user who configures that device.
So don't say gameconsoles are evil.(it's the user, not the console). The console has only a mobile-browser, for example for online help like this: http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psp/current/index.html
Now imagine what a desktop computer can do(like P2P allications, bigger webbrowser with more plugins, more storagecapacity, more calculation power) compared to a gameconsole, so why is a gameconsole bad?
If you've a desktop computer(otherwise you were not on this site) and the news proves that you also knows the programs and configuration to get those forbidden/unwanted data.
Really everything that's forbidden makes it interesting for the youth.(untill they growup, then they know it and probably don't want/need it).
The easy way: get a hardware network filter(or a router with url/network filter).
And filter all the url's or IP's that you don't want on your machine. Their're devices made for that job.
Good luck with configuring your network filter that's installed between the isp modem and homenetwork.(it can be so easy, you're doing too difficult, just read the network filter configuration manual)
Posted by PSP user.
2/28/2007 @ 3:17 AM
Oh and about the PSP itselves: It can have(if the owner configures it properly, see manual link previous post chapter: security settings) a 4 digit security lock for starting the device and/or psp-browser and/or Parental control.
But the most effective way(to protect any device on the network with internet related programs) is a hardware network filter between isp-modem and homenetwork.
So it's all about users who don't read their manual instructions of their own devices, to configure them properly. (for most eeh normal people it goes like:
when seeing pr0n for first time, omg is that real? After a few minutes you realise it's stupid or sickminded, just some digital data where you're looking at, with a result that without a filter their will be no pr0n activity, because they've seen it and don't care, or even better think like me: how can people be so stupid to do such a thing with a computer.(get a nice relationship in reallife) ;)
Posted by PSP user (again)
2/28/2007 @ 3:37 AM
SCANDALOUS - an internet connected device really does connect to the internet! C'mon people - get with the program - learn how to use the adult controls provided and more importantly supervise what your kids are doing instead of letting the tv babysit them! ... oh and if you don't like the thing, don't buy one!
Posted by Nick Wilson
2/28/2007 @ 7:52 AM
The Wii only has a web browser if you choose to download it.
And even at that, it's a free trial, which will have to be paid for once the free trial is over.
To those concerned about porn access on a Wii, I'd offer the advice of NOT downloading the web browser.
Simple as that.
Posted by Dreddnaught
2/28/2007 @ 12:52 PM
As many of the previous comments have stated, I would like to express my incredulity as to the way in which the article presents the Wii's connectivity as unique. While I know where are other areas on this site that address the fact that there are numerous conduits by which one can access the internet, why have you chosen to single out the Wii?
Furthermore the way in which you couch the issue "Wii have a porn problem" practically boarders on libel. There is no "porn problem" there is simply an internet connection and a browser.
I would suggest that you not exploit the fear inherent in new technologies (which you are unquestionably doing, seemingly against this own site's principals)by automatically painting this device as a pornography library. Rather, you need to plainly relay the fact that the Wii, like many other devices that appear to be dedicated to off-line use, can indeed connect to the internet and thereby be used to access adult content.
I've nothing against informing parents about the parental controls inherent in these systems, but to state that there is a "porn problem" is sensationalist at best, and an unwarranted attack against a company that has made a career of providing high-quality, family-oriented content.
Posted by Steve
2/28/2007 @ 5:31 PM
I think the fact that saying parents don't know about people being able to access porn on the wii is absolutely stupid. If parents can see that you can do that on an internet browser on the computer which that is all the wii is anyway, and then the wii has an internet browser as well, hmmm, i wonder what could you possibly access then?? It makes it seem like that just because you are a parent, you are a complete moron. and last time I checked, the wii isn't the only other system that has a browser for online viewing. you might would want to target the xbox 360 and playstation 3 and psp. Plus its also kind of lame with all the crap going on in the world, that porn on a video game system is one of your main topics.
Posted by Porn is good
2/28/2007 @ 9:10 PM
Do you realize that in order for a child to access the internet with the Wii they must enter a security code? Why aren't parents paying attention?!? Why blame the company? If the parents aren't taking the time to find out what their kids are playing or doing on the Wii, then why should it be Nintendo's fault for the parents' negligence? All you have to do is come up with a 4-digit security code the kids won't figure out. Don't tell them what it is; if they want to get online, make them look away and enter the code yourself.
I am a Christian, and I find the recent smear campaign preposterous. It's called PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY, people.
Posted by Darrin
3/1/2007 @ 1:23 PM
Yes Darrin. Parental responsibility. Sort of what this whole damn site is about. Btw, I'm still looking for the smear campaign on this site. Have you found it yet? Where do I protest the Wii or sign up for the boycott of Nintendo? Where is the Christian attack plans on this site? Wheres the right wing smear campaign? Funny its not here.
Ive only found all this stuff that would help parents talk to their kids better.
Posted by Critical Thinking Skills
3/1/2007 @ 6:41 PM
Don't smear the Wii. My 3 year old is playing it with me right now, and we love playing together. He can't access porn from it, and neither can I. The parental controls are solid, it is the parents who need to learn about this, not the machine that needs to be smeared.
Posted by Chris
3/1/2007 @ 8:26 PM
I have a Nintendo Wii and man, this whole Porn warning is blown WAY out of proportion. Like some of the other posts on here, it seems like you are using the success of the Wii to piggy back your agenda. While I think not allowing children to have access to porn is a noble cause, this is not the way to go about it. I have a 5 and 1.5 year old girls at home. I'm way more concerned with them seeing games where you can shoot a cop in the head then the remote possibility that they go to the Wii shop channel, download the browser, go to Google, and type in "penis".
It just seems a little extreme to single out the Wii especially over porn. theviolencetalk.com would be a website that I'd expect a lot more to single out a video game console then this site. ...yet theviolencetalk.com doesn't even exist. Seems a little backwards to me.
Again, protecting children from porn is a noble cause. But I think your focus should change from blaming things like the Wii for allowing potential access to porn, to training parents to know how to monitor their own kids any and everywhere.
If my girls see porn on TV or (much worse) violence, it's my fault, not yours. It's the parents job to be competent with their children. If they're not, one should question their worthiness to be a parent at all.
I could crash my car but that's not going to stop me from driving my girls to the zoo or amusement park. Please don't scare parents away from the super family friendly Wii because of the chance of porn.
Just like my car, the fun factor outweighs the chance of disaster 1,000,000 to 1.
Posted by Mr. S
3/3/2007 @ 8:32 AM
This is simply pathetic. There is no need for long argumentative points as the whole issue is irrational and illogical. To argue against it is to lend some credability to it.
There was porn before the internet and when it is replaced, it will be on that as well. As a parent of a 12 & 14 year old, I ask you to get a life, and leave parenting to parents. Keep an eye on your own world.
Posted by oldschool
3/4/2007 @ 2:45 AM
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3/6/2007 @ 9:16 AM
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